Talk:Robert Young (actor)

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The link i have used takes the reader to the obituary where there is another link to the full list of credits for Robert Young. Is there a copyright problem if the full list were to be cut and pasted to the article?

Lists are not copyrightable, as long as it's only a list and not commentary. Be sure to make its format clean, though. -- Zoe

CAT

Free categories is about his dead! I think that it is bad solution.--Vojvodaeist 18:28, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not a doctor

Wasn't it Peter Bergman that said that and not Robert Young? 12.4.17.250 (talk) 18:57, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes, it was. Also, Chris Robinson. But not Robert Young, as far as I've been able to ascertain. http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002541.html The article cited by Wikipedia was mistaken. See http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/002541.html RY did however do commercials, for Sanka I'm removing the relevant sentaneces/citaiton --gejyspa (talk) 14:05, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

It was actually Robert Young, but he wasn't selling aspirin. The upenn URL is a messy speculation. There was an earlier problem with an actor who played a doctor doing a commercial for some sort of medication, leading to Young's initial disclaimer. He said "Hello. I'm not a doctor, although I play one on TV." He introduced himself as the actor Robert Young, then talked about the stress involved in playing Marcus Welby, MD. He then said he found it hard to sleep sometimes, until he spoke with his doctor, who recommended he calm down and drink Sanka-brand coffee, after a hard day on the set. It is quite possible there is no Youtube clip posted of this commercial. It played in 1974 over the national networks. It was significantly more memorable than the Marcus Welby, MD television show, which was torture to sit through.Hypatea (talk) 19:16, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Robert Young, The Black Camel

Robert Young did appear in the early Charlie Chan film, The Black Camel, as mentioned in his Wiki bio, however the picture was made for Fox, and filmed in Hawaii, and not Young's then new home studio MGM. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Telegonus (talk • contribs) 08:56, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

"Western Union"

Young had major roles in "Northwest Passage" and "Western Union", two top-notch "A" films--I really don't know why he considered himself to be a "victim" of the studio system. "Western Union" is one of the best westerns ever made. By the way, the final shoot-out scene with Young in "Western Union" was later copied exactly by John Ford in the shoot-out scene between Lee Marvin and James Stewart in "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence". 63.192.100.101 (talk) 21:53, 28 December 2011 (UTC)

Indeed, Robert Young did nicely by the studio system, including his home studio, which never sought to promote him as a potential superstar as his work didn't seem to warrant that kind of PR. At his level, as a second stringer but not B player, he did nicely at Metro and elsewhere, and indeed Western Union was a good loan-out for him, as was Claudia, two years later, featuring newcomer Dorothy McGuire, adapted froma sure-fire hit play. The kinds of top quality roles he failed to get at MGM he often did get elsewhere; and after he quit the studio he prospered as a freelance till he went into television in 1954 with the Father Knows Best series. Young had a good run in feature films, for over twenty years. He made a good living and appeared in some fine, even classic films. His unhappiness, I sense, came from his personal life, plagued his alcholism and depression. The studio system treated him just fine.

JB

death

My understanding is that he committed suicide by carbon monoxide inhalation (from his car running in a closed garage). Is this correct? WilliamSommerwerck (talk) 17:07, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

No, that is not correct. The article states he died of natural causes (ie respiratory failure) and has a source to support that. Respiratory failure is not code for self inflicted death by carbon monoxide inhalation. Young did attempt suicide in 1991 which is also discussed in the article. Pinkadelica^♣ 18:52, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

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Many errors in this bio

Unsuccessfully tried to correct errors and add some factual info. Also, there is a mean-spirited attitude towards the subject running throughout the page. Isn't Wikipedia supposed to be neutral and unbiased? Mag Wildwood (talk) 16:30, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

• MadgeWildwood, Wikipedia is first of all a collaborative project, just so you know. I reverted you partly, and anyone who sees this edit, for instance, will understand why--"did not enjoy a happy time" is the kind of language we don't usually put in article space. If there is a "mean-spirited attitude", this won't alleviate it. As for correcting errors--I reverted mostly because I don't know what is going on in here?

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  Drmies (talk) 22:24, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

You have incorrectly attributed a sentence to me and I don't know what happened either. I thought it was something put in place to prevent anyone else from contributing and daring to edit so much as a full stop of your work of genius. However, I do know that I have been a journalist my entire working life, and the majority of my subject matter has been film, music, art and fashion. I know my facts, I check my sources (and I don't rely solely on the Internet), I know how to write well, spell and understand English grammar. I also have subbed countless times during my career. Regrettably, there is a noticeably patriarchal, Americacentric attitude that pervades the majority of Wikipedia pages. as demonstrated Contributors such as yourself, who refuse to consider that someone else might have something worthwhile to add and throw a fit if anyone so much as changes a comma in your work of genius. And yes, there IS a mean-spirited stance throughout this (incomplete) bio of Robert Young, which is anything but neutral. Mag Wildwood (talk) 10:28, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

By the way, you got my name wrong so you're not as perfect as you seem to think, oh GENIUS contributor to Wikipedia. Mag Wildwood (talk) 10:30, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

Mag Wildwood, Drmies was merely using the "ping" function to respond to you by user name. I have piped the user name to the form you use in your signature, since you prefer to be addressed that way.

diff shows that you did indeed introduce the garbled sentence and also the did not enjoy a happy time wording, both in the same edit. My first guess would be that the garbling (and also the addition of "nowiki" tags) is due to your using the visual edit function on the mobile app, which isnotoriously hinky software. But you are responsible for your edits and clearly failed to preview before saving that one, or to look hard enough at the result afterwards, since your next edit was a typo correction. And you should have checked before accusing Drmies of misattributing a sentence to you, unless you were referring to some other wording than the "happy time" bit?

Fundamentally, your changes introduced more emphatically evaluative wording (such as emphasizing success of TV shows)and also emphasized Young's mistreatment by MGM. The former is at best unnecessary; readers who want the specifics of how popular a show was, or even the nature of the character Young played, can click the link, and as an encyclopedia, Wikipedia hews to a drily factual style where possible as part of its aim of neutrality, so a single mention of "success" or "popularity" with reference to a particular show is sufficient if the cited sources warrant mentioning it at all. The latter is a change unsupported by cited sources. For all I know, it may be correct. But to change the balance of an article, as you say you intended to do, especially if it involves stating any kind of malfeasance or unfairness, requires citing sources for the specific points. Otherwise, the changes are unsupported personal opinion. And I don't see any citations added in your edits. Yngvadottir (talk) 01:09, 12 July 2022 (UTC)