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Hi, I'd just like to apologise if any of my behaviour seemed disruptive with regards to the Steve Rogers image. I never meant to be disruptive or edit-war, and I guess I was somewhat confused when the image was reverted, as I had thought there was consensus and that the sourcing was ok. I will try to engage constructively to sort the raised issues on the article. Thanks. IronManCap (talk) 16:48, 12 April 2021 (UTC)

Super Dragon Ball Heroes

Hi Netoholic, I'd just like to mention that the series Super Dragon Ball Heroes isn't actually a TV series, it's an Original net animation (similar to Original video animation), so I moved it from Super Dragon Ball Heroes (TV series) to Super Dragon Ball Heroes (web series). Cheers.★Trekker (talk) 20:23, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

@*Treker: - Fair enough. I didn't see any episode lengths on the list - web series tend to be <10 minute episodes vs TV series which are 30-60m. -- Netoholic @ 20:29, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

I have not seen the show myself, but the IMDb page says the episodes are 10 minutes.★Trekker (talk) 20:33, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

RfC on racial hereditarianism at the R&I talk-page

An RfC at Talk:Race and intelligence revisits the question, considered last year at WP:FTN, of whether or not the theory that a genetic link exists between race and intelligence is a fringe theory. This RfC supercedes the recent RfC on this topic at WP:RSN that was closed as improperly formulated.

Your participation is welcome. Thank you. NightHeron (talk) 22:46, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

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Question

Hi, Neto - do you know a way I can get access to this article? Atsme 💬 📧 14:58, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

@Atsme: - I searched for that article on Google Scholar and one of the versions listed here has a PDF download that worked for me. -- Netoholic @ 17:19, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you!! Atsme 💬 📧 22:51, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

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Newspapers.com Publisher Extra content?

Hello there! Last month, I made note that the following statement on the Wikipedia:Newspapers.com page, "Free accounts through the Wikipedia Library now do include access to Newspapers.com Publisher Extra content", doesn't seem to be the case for me. I'm unable to access a number of newspapers, including the St. Petersburg Times, the Miami Herald, and Allentown, Pennsylvania's The Morning Call. When I attempt to do so, I'm greeted with a message that reads "You need a Publisher Extra Subscription to view this page". How can I access these newspapers? —Matthew - (talk) 21:41, 15 July 2021 (UTC)

Hi @MatthewHoobin: - the expanded access is granted to our editors in annual increments. Looks like yours might be expired since your last upgrade was done in early 2020. If you want to renew, visit "My Library", click "My applications" and click the "Request renewal" button next to your previous application. Once we get that processed, your full access will come back for another year. -- Netoholic @ 01:59, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

@Netoholic: Thank you! —Matthew - (talk) 02:38, 16 July 2021 (UTC)

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Newspapers.com access

Hi, Netoholic! Hope this finds you well. I am in the process of writing some articles using Newspapers.com. While the free access is pretty helpful on its own (I managed to write 9 GAs from scratch in five days), the OCR versions leave a lot to be desired, and it kind of feels like wringing blood with a stone with some of them (it takes way longer than being able to just click the image, and there are lots of references I just can't use at all). I submitted an application on September 2, but it hasn't been reviewed yet -- is there anything I can do to speed it along, or are there just a bunch of applications to get through? jp×g 23:57, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

Well, it seems to have gone through -- I've been enjoying it a lot the last few days, and sourcing articles is a breeze! I don't know if you had anything to do with it, but if you did, I offer my gratitude. jp×g 06:48, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

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Access to you-know-where

I'm once again getting the "You need a subscription to view this page" message from Newspapers.com, even though it's only been a few weeks since the last time I had to do this crap. Is their software that bad, or do they have IT people who don't really like us despite the millions of hits we must generate for them, or what? --Orange Mike | Talk 21:19, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

@Orangemike: Make sure you are logged-in and verify your account level at https://www.newspapers.com/account/ says "Plan: Complimentary Publisher Extra Annual". -- Netoholic @ 02:14, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

I'm logged in, and it says my status is "registered guest." --Orange Mike | Talk 02:26, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

@Orangemike: Alright then, it might be you need to renew because Newspapers.com gives our users elevated access in 1-year increments. Go to https://wikipedialibrary.wmflabs.org/users/, click "My applications" and see if your last application for Newspapers.com was within the last 1 year. If it was, let me know, otherwise click "Request renewal" on your most recent application. -- Netoholic @ 02:55, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

Status is "renewal submitted" from 2018. Clicked the "request renewal" button. --Orange Mike | Talk 03:02, 19 November 2021 (UTC)

"This object cannot be renewed. (This probably means that you have already requested that it be renewed.)" --Orange Mike | Talk 14:29, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

@Orangemike: - Got your renewal request dated Nov. 19, 2021. The provider confirmed back on Nov 29 that your account was upgraded. -- Netoholic @ 20:13, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

"You're currently a Registered Guest. This free subscription gets you access to search newspapers but you will not be able to view the full page. Get a paid subscription for access." --Orange Mike | Talk 05:39, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Orangemike: - Go to https://www.newspapers.com/account/ (make sure you are logged into their site). Under "Plan" what does it say? Also, does the email address there match the email address you gave in your application for this on Wikipedia Library? -- Netoholic @ 10:19, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

"YOUR PLAN - Registered Guest Limited Access - You can only search and browse newspaper archives." And the e-mail address I always use is orange mike atsign gmail dot com (with orangemike being one word). --Orange Mike | Talk 14:47, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

@Orangemike: That explains things. In your Nov. 19, 2021 renewal request, you gave your email address as "wikipedia.org" instead of "gmail.com". The renewal you put in yesterday has the right email, so I'll send out a corrected request with the next batch to the partner within a few days. -- Netoholic @ 21:29, 2 December 2021 (UTC)

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Newspapers.com renewal error

Hi there,

I requested a renewal for complimentary access to Newspapers.com on January 8. However, I cannot access the full archive. When I clicked on "Account Details," it reads under the Subscription info, "You're currently a Registered Guest. This free subscription gets you access to search newspapers but you will not be able to view the full page. Get a paid subscription for access."

I was reading a previous discussion of a similar Wikipedian who encountered the same problem, and it turned out because the e-mail used on the Wikipedia Library application was different than the one on the Newspapers.com account. Likewise, my account listed on the application was birdienest81@hotmail.com, but the Newspapers.com account had jgarin07@gmail.com. So I changed the one on the Newspapers.com account to the hotmail one and changed my username to birdienest81. I wonder if this should solve the problem.

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@Birdienest81: The request was submitted a few days ago but I haven't heard back from the partner contact. Please change your account there back to the original email address (gmail) until they process your upgrade, because that's the information I sent them. You will get an email from them once its completed. -- Netoholic @ 13:06, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

@Netoholic: Newspapers.com does not seem to let me change the email back to Gmail. When I up the gmail address, it reads "Email is already in use by another account."

--Birdienest81talk 11:17, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

@Birdienest81: Try doing a password reset using the gmail address. Maybe they made you a new account. -- Netoholic @ 02:30, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

Achieving consensus at Talk:Cross-country skiing (sport)?

Netoholic, you are invited to participate in a ranked-choice poll at Talk:Cross-country skiing (sport)#Ranked-choice poll of alternatives offered, which may help arrive at a consensus among the choices discussed. I have set up an opportunity for you to do so. Cheers, HopsonRoad (talk) 17:53, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi Netoholic, I understand your good-faith concern about WP:NOTVOTE, which says, "The words "vote" and "voting" have a variety of connotations, but they are commonly associated specifically with ballot-casting or majority voting." It goes on to say, "Different terminology (e.g. "seeking views", "polling" and "commenting") may be preferable." Indeed, what I have offered was a poll to help guide those participating in the discussion to consensus in a situation where none of the alternatives offered is "wrong"; there's just a question of preference among them.

WP:NOVOTE goes on to state the "communal norm that it is "not the vote" that matters, but the reasoning behind the !vote that is important." I suggest that the reasoning has been presented over a range of similar alternatives, so the poll, complete with comment, helps focus the discussion to where a choice that people can live with emerges.

I invite you to remove the collapsed format and participate. If you have a better path to consensus, I'm very interested in knowing it! Cheers, HopsonRoad (talk) 15:03, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

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Newspapers.com account not processing

A while back, you sent a submission to the Newspapers.com. However, as of January 16, 2023, I still had'nt received an application back to the site. Is there anything that I can do atm? Yoshiman6464 ^♫🥚 23:09, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

You would have been contacted by email on Dec 22 at the .edu email address you use for your account on Newspapers.com. Can you check for that? -- Netoholic @ 03:52, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

Of course. But on the site, I changed by Email since I recently graduated. Yoshiman6464 ^♫🥚 13:21, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

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Source of Edmond Hoyle's portrait?

Hi! This is a long shot, but do you by any chance remember where you found File:Edmond Hoyle.jpg in 2004? I'm trying to confirm that it's actually a portrait of the man. Jyamine (talk) 16:05, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Its a fair question, but my original upload was deleted, so I don't have anything to jog my memory. Perhaps there is something in the deleted history at en:File:Edmond Hoyle.jpg. @Maxim:, you were the deleting admin, would you be able to check the edit comments or page text for me to see if I provided a source? If there's nothing, then I'd be happy to help research it. -- Netoholic @ 06:56, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunately, no, there's absolutely nothing in the history:

(diff) 06:40, 4 November 2007 . . SieBot (talk | contribs | block) m 105 bytes (Exact duplicate on Commons with same name)

(diff) 04:14, 23 December 2004 . . Mattingly23 (talk | contribs | block) 13 bytes (added pd tag)

(diff) 04:35, 6 August 2004 . . Netoholic (talk | contribs | block) empty

After all it was mid-2004, and it wasn't particularly standard to systematically add attribution or copyright tags to images just yet. :-) Maxim (talk) 11:07, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

Thanks anyway! Jyamine (talk) 12:51, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

I've removed the image from the en Wikipedia article as I'm more convinced its not genuine. Will have to look into renaming or deleting from Commons though. -- Netoholic @ 14:25, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

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Books & Bytes – Issue 63

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Issue 63, May – June 2024

• One new partner
• 1Lib1Ref
• Spotlight: References check

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Books & Bytes – Issue 64

The Wikipedia Library: Books & Bytes
Issue 64, July – August 2024

• The Hindu Group joins The Wikipedia Library
• Wikimania presentation
• New user script for easily searching The Wikipedia Library

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