Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cathy Hoeven
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The result of the debate was delete. 6 solid deletes, 4 solid keeps, and a 2-2 weak keeps and weak deletes. -- AllyUnion (talk) 13:09, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
With 12 unique google hits [1], does this person pass "the test"? If so, why? GRider\talk 00:28, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. This is really borderline. The reason I'm voting "keep" is because I can't find a reason under Wikipedia:Importance to object to this article. Honestly, I don't think it's that important myself, but she's been a producer of a popular network television program for a long time. – flamurai (t) 02:54, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
- weak keep marginally notable, but has worked on some well known shows. don't see any harm in keeping it. Wolfman 05:36, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, just under the bar of notability. Megan1967 09:04, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Agree with Megan, delete. Lots of people are associated with big shows, simply because the shows are big. Radiant! 09:24, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
- Weak delete. 2 IMDB producing credits in shows I, as a European never heard of, isn't my idea of notable, not even by association. 131.211.210.32 09:57, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Keep I've heard of those shows, and writers make a significant impact on them. Wikipedia isn't doing it's job properly if it ignores the "behind the scenes" people who actually contribute most of the material. It's not just about famous faces Kappa 10:43, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 11:44, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC) long-term writer on at least two VERY famous shows. Above the bar. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 11:44, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. I believe US shows tend to have large teams of writers and producers (not having seen either of these, I have no idea how long their credits are). I'd need evidence that she was more than just one of the team. Average Earthman 13:15, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Weak keep Not sure how much of an article can be made out of this, but her work is more than a little notable. --InShaneee 16:42, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Just brushing the top of the bar for notability as supervising producer for recent show. HyperZonktalk 16:47, Feb 18, 2005 (UTC)
- Delete if that's all there is. Just another name in the credits. Shows like Letterman have teams of writers (and considering its a talk show most of the show is taken up with "unscripted" chat between host and guests (not totally impromptu, but usually not scripted by a separate writer)). And being "a producer" in itself isn;t terribly notable; it seems every show has about a thousand people who hold the title of some form of "producer". -R. fiend 18:52, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. There are millions of people who work "behind the scenes" and making important contribution to civilization. It is not wikipedia's role to establish someone's notability: it is to record the proven notability. Mikkalai 20:26, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Half delete this. —RaD Man (talk) 11:34, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- The evidence presented so far does not meet my understanding of the recommended criteria for inclusion of biographies. Delete unless further evidence of notability can be established. Rossami (talk) 04:41, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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