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I am little uncertain here. Should the political parties first be stated with the original spanish name, then the english name in parenthesis? That's what I have done now. Please tell me if it's wrong....

Family

A lot of the info about his family (and their problems) did not seem relevant to him, so I have made it more concise. --Holdspa

What is relevant and what isn't?

Holspa,

It is very common to use personal and family information profusely, above all in biographies written in England and the United States. You should not delete informatión based on such subjective criteria.

Have a look at, for example, articles on any Kennedy familiy member.

Please use deletion with caution. It easily turns into censorshiop.

--Savedor 19:22, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Original First

In response to the first message, the convetion is that the original name comes first and then the translation in parenthesis.

--Savedor 19:31, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chosen by Aznar?

The article says that "Son Adolfo Suárez Illana was chosen by José María Aznar as the People's Party (PP) candidate for the post of president of the Autonomous Community of Castilla-La Mancha". The current wording implies that it was a personal decision of Aznar what would mean, for example, that the People's party in Castilla la Mancha had no opportunity to express its opinion or that nobody else was in favor of him. I believe this line needs urgently a source or a change in its wording. MJGR 10:27, 22 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

Reverted vandalism in the name "Don Adolfo Suárez y tontazález apesta" is like say "D. Adolfo suarez and dummy smelly" the real name is "Adolfo Suárez González" --88.9.30.157 (talk) 02:03, 19 January 2009 (UTC) I'm spanish wikipedista my username is [Wing Leader][reply]

About spanish naming conventions.

I'd like to point out, that even though I do not know exactly if this is true for every person in this article, the accumulation of "y"s between surnames seems strange to me. Even if the name should have it in the spanish name registry, it is usually never used. I would then ask if someone should know if any of those people actually went by those names, "y" included or not. For instance I know for certain that José_Bono_Martínez does not. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.0.117.27 (talk) 18:16, 8 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal to rename the page "Adolfo Suarez Gonzales"

In all the news reports I ever read about Prime Minister Suarez, I never once saw him referred to as the "1st Duke of Suarez". Wikipedia has lots of articles about nobility, but Suarez is most notable for having become Prime Minister in the process of a democratic election. While the "Duke of Suarez" thing can be fine as a redirect, he really needs to be set apart from the zillions of articles about people whose notability was, literally, inherited. Mandsford (talk) 20:39, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. He's notable as Prime Minister of Spain, and he was given a title afterward, and he never did any substantive governing as a Duke to my knowledge. SnowFire (talk) 00:29, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Legal image added

Legal image added. See wikicommons (spanish): http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archivo:Adolfo_Suarez.JPG —Preceding unsigned comment added by Infinauta (talk • contribs) 02:02, 22 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: moved to Adolfo Suárez. Favonian (talk) 11:57, 5 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Adolfo Suárez, 1st Duke of Suárez → Adolfo Suárez – With the current title and lede, a reader would assume that a noble, someone in the old guard with connections, was the first Prime Minister of Spain. That isn't true at all; Suárez was a lawyer & normal politician. The King gave Suárez his title *after* he left office, presumably as a royal stamp of approval on the fragile young democracy. A decent move, but it is a largely meaningless title, it involves no realms to govern, nobody else has ever held the position of Duke of Suárez before, etc. He is basically never referred to as Duke; if referred to with a title it should be "Prime Minister" 99.9% of the time as that was the *important* title he held. The Spanish Wikipedia page is at es:Adolfo Suárez, and Googling shows 14,500 hits for "Duque de Suárez" and 386,000 results for "Adolfo Suárez." See also the similar requested move at Talk:Leopoldo Calvo-Sotelo, 1st Marquis of the Ría de Ribadeo, Suárez's successor. SnowFire (talk) 01:04, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support as there is noone else named so and with equal importance to distinguish from. Suédoise (talk) 07:19, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Britannica, Columbia and A Dictionary of Contemporary World History call him "Adolfo Suárez González." None of these sources considered his dukedom to be something worth mentioning. Duke of Kauffner 13:45, 27 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support: per nom and Kauffner's references --RJFF (talk) 11:34, 28 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. _``` t o l l _` b o o t h _` w i l l i e _`` $1.25 PLEASE _``` 21:04, 3 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Born and died

he born in Cebreros (Ávila) and he died in Madrid — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.44.14.154 (talk) 15:41, 9 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright cleanup

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Most Excellent

It is ridiculous and wrong to add to certain Spanish biographies “Most Excellent” over the picture. It is wrong because in the. Est case it should be “His Excellency”, which is the equivalent to “Excelentísimo señor”. It is ridiculous because in Spain such treatment is strictly restricted to obituaries, diplomas, and very particular official documents. Baduell (talk) 13:32, 16 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]