Talk:Black Oak Arkansas

Ruby

Black Oak Arkansas- Best known for The Song "Jim Dandy to the Rescue, With the Help of Ruby Starr. Ruby- also traveled with her own band "Grey Ghost". She opened for many of the Top Name bands in the 70's such as Black Sabbath, Bob Seger, etc. In the early to mid 80's Ruby was in a band called "Grey Star", in the Late 80's early 90's it was the Ruby Starr Band. This woman had an incredible voice, and i will never forget her. She rocked Wiscosin. But sad to say in the latest release of BOA dvd she is only mentioned by name, and they say thanks to her. You would think that who ever put the video together, could have given her alittle film footage, of her actually singing on the stage with the band. Ruby has since passed on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.163.100.132 (talk) 02:06, 16 October 2004 (UTC)

Shawn Lane!

Why isn't Shawn Lane mentioned anywhere on the page? Read Shawn's biography here http://www.tarsun.net/bio.htm — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beatallica (talk • contribs) 03:41, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

There were probably upwards of 100 different musicians who jammed with Black Oak Arkansas, especially in different periods in their late history when the original members had left and the band was basically comprised of Jim Mangrum and a load of replacements. I don't think it's really historically relevant to list them all because they weren't part of the band when it was widely popular and they were recording albums that sold more than a few hundred copies. However, I did include a link at the bottom of the article to a website that goes into detail listing every person that has ever played on stage with Black Oak Arkansas. Personally I feel like that's enough information on the subject and there's really no need to replicate it here. I guess someone could make a wiki "list of people who played with Black Oak Arkansas" but, again, I don't know if all that warrants its own page. The Bob Talbot 03:36, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Then again, Wiki isn't paper so there's room for everything, I guess! I may try to come up with a graceful way to write up some of the relevant later musicians. Shawn Lane definitely was an accomplished musician and I'd hate to leave him out. The Bob Talbot 03:41, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

NPOV and Vandalism

The reason I kept removing your edits, "random IP people from Cork", is because they were not formatted correctly, they used sensationalist language, and were not NPOV. Granted those albums DO exist and I will try to format your additions into some Wikipedia proper form. However, I do not appreciate you vandalizing my user page repeatedly. I am sure we can work something out here! Thanks. The Bob Talbot 06:07, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

You have information that I don't, obviously. That's fine. Just keep it neutral, as in no diatribes on why it's "cool" and how "rocking" the lyrics are. If you can find some constructive way to add it please go ahead. As you can see I was able to add some of your stuff and I am still working on expanding on the later albums and putting who joined when. The Bob Talbot 06:54, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Vandals

I have gone in and changed back some incorrect information that was inserted in the last few months. Somebody named Bill Godley inserted his name in place of Andy Tanas in the 77-78 version of the band. I was in the band at that time too and know that Andy was in the band and not Godley. This is an insult to the members of that band who were quality players and performed at a very high level if only a short time. I hope Mr. Godley will leave this article alone out of respect for the members of this version of Black Oak. Popsdrum 03:53, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Recorded for Stax in Memphis or New Orleans???

I read both this entry for Black Oak Arkansas and the one for James Mangrum. This one says that:

"The Knowbody Else moved to Memphis, Tennessee in 1969 and signed a record deal with Stax Records. Their self-titled debut album, and their only album with Stax, was largely ignored by the populace."

but the article for Mangrum says that the Knowbody Else:

"moved to New Orleans and recorded a Stax record that went nowhere."

So was it Memphis or New Orleans that they moved to? Or did they sign the deal with Stax in Memphis and then move to New Orleans to record the album? Just hoping to clear up an apparent inconsistency between these two articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.164.151.49 (talk) 21:21, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Non sequitur

Quote: The band's first PA system was stolen from Monette High School. The group then cleaned out an old galvanized grain bin on the edge of town and began blasting out ear-piercing sounds that echoed their special blend of music that came from rock, gospel, country and blues influences.[2] Members of the group were subsequently charged in absentia with grand larceny and sentenced to 26 years at the Tucker Prison Farm, a sentence that was later suspended.

So the PA theft lead to them "cleaning out a grain bin" which created their special blend of music which then lead to the grand larceny charge? I think this section needs a rewrite. Thanks, Maikel (talk) 14:15, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

wow, this needs cleanup

The article reads as though written by Mangrum's press agent. While Mangrum remains one of my fave vocalists of the 1970s, that's NOT the purpose of an encyclopedia. What leapt out at me was Jim Dandy temporarily left the band for health reasons... which translates closer to "wrapped his car around a big ol' tree at exceptional velocity and busted up his back." Strike one.

As the Mangrum article says (somewhat disingenuously), "In 1982, he was involved in a car accident, and broke three vertebrae". I mean, "involved" makes it sound like some random stranger crashed into Mangrum's house. Proper questions remain entirely (intentionally) unaddressed: who was driving? alcohol or drugs? what did police have to say about the matter? were charges considered? Instead, the entire article cites six references... three of which are original research. Strike two.

Who was it who worked to turn "Black Oak Arkansas" into "Jim Dandy & This Week's Random Sidemen" rather than capitalizing on his fame and actually going solo? At what point did the original lineup -- particularly members who predated Mangrum -- lose equality? Anyone can impress me here by pointing to ONE INTERVIEW with any founding member. Call it a foul ball in the dirt... but very close to that third strike. As NONE of those founders has his own article, they ought properly receive presentation here in their singular shared claim to fame.

Another foul: that "26-year sentence" thing. Unless someone can point to official documents, or an archived newspaper article, or at least an interview with someone knowledgeable in the local law-enforcement or judicial system at that time, it's at best hearsay. Over at the Mangrum article, verity is claimed on the basis of an interview... with Mangrum. I'm tempted to wipe it entirely, but may just clarify that it's merely self-serving hype, the BOA version of biting the head off a bat.

Wow, almost struck out again: Reportedly, BOA is the rock band which holds the world record with the largest number of members who have belonged successively, a total of 61. !!! Strictly amateur league: pull some "fact" out of the air, then claim it's "reportedly" so. Shades of Jim Dandy is credited with inspiring Van Halen frontman David Lee Roth's image and onstage persona as well!!

If this is going to be a proper article, save the MANGRUM IS GOD stuff for Jim "Dandy" Mangrum. Tell me about BOA. Go ahead and make a visual Timeline of those revolving-door sidemen. Set up a Discography with RIAA (and maybe worldwide) numbers.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 17:36, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

I updated the Refimprove. Changes will happen in an attempt to make this something more resembling an encyclopedia article than fansite blather.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 14:27, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Johnnie Bolin

Johnnie Bolin was Black Oaks Drummer starting in 1988- to present time, except if someone needed to stand in if he can’t -he isn’t even mentioned in the list(s) - Lakristine (talk) 04:17, 12 February 2023 (UTC)