Talk:Stone of Destiny
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Minimize confusion
[edit]Stone of Scone was moved from Stone of Destiny because it was listed on 'Clean Up' with a request that it be merged with Lia Fáil, an article about another stone which also claims to be the Stone of Destiny. Earlier versions of Stone of Scone also made references to the 'Lia Fáil' and confused the two as being the same stone. The external link from 'Lia Fáil' clearly demonstrates that one is in Ireland and a monolith the other is in Scotland and a square slab. Giano 08:38, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Origins
[edit]The two are related, the Scottish stone originally came from the Gaelic culture in Scotland, which is known to have came from Ireland originally as the Dalriada kingdom moved from Ulster in Ireland to Argyll in Scotland. Not only that, it has always been traditionally believed to come from Ireland, too. Something about that should be included.--Aesen 04:45, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Actually the one at Tara is probably something else, it can't be sat on. ALL the Irish Legends refer to it as something sat on and some as the pillow of Jacob (later Christian addition), likely the Stone of Scone is the Irish Lia Fail, if it was a real thing, one of the four "treasures" of the Tuath De, later renamed Tuatha De Danann by the monks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.147.171.6 (talk) 18:39, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
Stone of Destiny (aka Stone of Scone)
[edit]According to the teachings of Dr. Gene Scott (Ph.D Stanford) the Stone of Destiny is originally Jacob's pillar stone (Genesis 28:18) also called the Shepherd Stone and the Stone of Israel (Genesis 49:24). The same rock that Moses strikes in Exodus 17:6 and Numbers 20:11 (c. 1413 B.C.).
Jeremiah later takes the stone, along with his two great-grand-daughters (the daughters of Zedikiah, Jeremiah's grandson) and marries one to the King of Spain, and the other (Tea Tephi, aka Tara) to the King of Ireland (c. 586 B.C.). Note that Zedikiah is a descendant of Judah, one of the sons of Jacob, aka Israel). Ireland is said to be the final resting place of Jeremiah, the Irish origins of the name "Jeremy".
There is a biblical connection with the known history of the stone and Ezekiel 21:27 where the stone is overthrown three times - Judah to Ireland, Ireland to Scotland, Scotland to England. Although, in 2004 the stone was moved to Scotland, Scotland did not need to physically seize the stone.
What I am currently researching, is a historical connection between Jeremiah (aka "Ollam Falla"), Tea Tephi, and Ireland.
As referenced under Milesians (Irish), there is a connection with Spain, and under the Stone of Destiny, the stone is the same "Stone of Scone" used as a coronation stone inserted in the base of St. Edward's Chair during the crowning ceremony. According to "The Illustrious Lineage of the Royal House of Britan" (1923) Tea Tephi is connected to the Kings of Ireland through Ugaine the Great and Angus the Prolific.
Posted by: David Hovik 4/22/05 Mmhovik (talk | contribs) 17:09, 22 April 2005