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Former good articlePhi Delta Theta was one of the Social sciences and society good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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DateProcessResult
May 17, 2007Peer reviewReviewed
June 21, 2007Good article nomineeListed
December 20, 2007Featured article candidateNot promoted
July 23, 2009Good article reassessmentDelisted
Current status: Delisted good article

Racial discrimination history

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I submitted edits to clarify what is an inaccurate and misleading description of 20th century racial issues. These were based on personal memory as a participant in some of the pivotal events involved, but my edits were removed citing personal memory as an inadequate source. I assume documentation exists somewhere, but I don't know where, or whether I can get access to it. As an undergraduate member of PDT at the time of those events and someone who put much effort into eliminating the blatant racism that existed, I believe the current text is worse than no discussion of the subject at all and believe it should be deleted if it can't be corrected. But I'm not an experienced Wiki editor and would like advice before proceeding. Jonathan Langsam (talk) 20:08, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jonathan Langsam: Rather than deleting or giving up, have you tried reaching out to the organization's national headquarters? I'm sure they have historical archives that would verify your recollections that could be used as citations. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 21:47, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Phi Delta Theta does have its fraternity magazine online at https://www.phideltathetaarchive.com/ . I'd count those as reasonable sources, albeit needing to be augmented by external with a Neutral Point of View. For example, Amherst and Williams being suspended is mentioned at https://www.phideltathetaarchive.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/1953-54_vol78_no1-5.pdf , but the fact that Williams was suspended for initiating a Jewish Student is at https://www-jstor-org.wikipedialibrary.idm.oclc.org/stable/23603603?searchText=1953+regents+amherst&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3FQuery%3D1953%2Bregents%2Bamherst%26so%3Drel&ab_segments=0%2Fbasic_search_gsv2%2Fcontrol&refreqid=fastly-default%3A1effe82174158fcc7cf450fd25184bc0&seq=3 (Discrimination in Education in the 1954 American Jewish Yearbook). (Wikipedia Library is *very* useful). I'm not sure if your time in PDT is in the 1950s or 1960s, I'd say the issue spans at least 20 years. Also, I'm not honestly sure that PDT is particularly problematic compared to the rest of the NIC, especially those founded south of the Mason Dixon line. I look forward to improvements. Lets start with the statements you find particularly problematic.Naraht (talk) 13:22, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]