Talk:Full Moon Fever

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"Hello, CD listeners..."

There seems to be some disagreement about whether the little interlude in which TP takes a moment's pause "in fairness to [...] those listening on cassette or records" should be referred to here as "Attention CD Listeners" or "Hello CD Listeners". My opinion is that it should be "Hello CD Listeners", as this is the phrase with which TP actually begins his monologue, and the name by which the overwhelming majority of people familiar with the interlude refer to it. Evidence: a Google search for the exact phrase "attention cd listeners" returns only 240 results, while the exact phrase "hello cd listeners" returns 22,300 — nearly a hundredfold difference! Moreover, the latter phrase has apparently passed into use in popular culture to some extent. The interlude is not a song or track unto itself, so I don't think it's reasonable to claim "Attention CD Listeners" is its proper name just because that phrase is printed in the album liner somewhere. Finally, I would also point out that there is currently a redirect to this page from "Hello CD Listeners" but *not* from "Attention CD Listeners". — Jaydiem (talk) 00:18, 22 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Hello CD Listeners" is a misnomer, regardless of how widespread it may be. The only reference to this hidden track is in the album credits where it is called "Attention CD Listeners". Piriczki (talk) 13:12, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see how any of the listed sources of "misnomers" given in that article is applicable in this case. You yourself acknowledge that the interlude is not a published song in the usual sense and does not appear on the album's track list. As such, it has no "official" name, and it only makes sense to refer to it on this page in the same way that it's by far most commonly referred to in real life across the Web, which is as "Hello CD Listeners". Moreover, I would contend that the recording itself, in which TP undeniably says "Hello, CD listeners," should be more authoritative than a passing mention in the liner notes in determining the proper name by which to refer to the interlude. — Jaydiem (talk) 21:32, 23 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is not just a passing reference, it is the only reference to the title of the track. The album credits read exactly as follows:

BENMONT TENCH – Piano on "The Apartment Song"

KELSEY CAMPBELL – Scream on "Zombie Zoo"

ROY ORBISON – Background Vocals with the TREMBLING BLENDERS on "Zombie Zoo"

ALAN WEIDEL, JEFF LYNNE, T.P. – Hand claps on "Feel a Whole Lot Better"

T.P., JEFF LYNNE & DEL SHANNON – Barnyard noises on "Attention CD Listeners"

If there is a reliable source that contradicts and somehow supercedes the actual album credits, please provide it. Piriczki (talk) 12:03, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That is indeed the only mention of the interlude in the liner notes, and it seems like only a passing reference to me. I contend that it lacks the authority of an actual track list. [P.S. Ah, such fun arguing over a single word!] — Jaydiem (talk) 20:19, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RfC

Other editors are asked to comment on the above discussion. Should a misnomer or interpretation be used in a Wikipedia album article instead of the title shown in the actual album credits? Piriczki (talk) 12:04, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Your phrasing of this question is biased. Whether or not "Hello CD Listeners" is a "misnomer" is precisely what's in question here. In any case, my compromise edit circumvents the issue of what the "title" of the interlude is, if indeed it has one, by never referring to the interlude by a formal title, using a quotation of its first three words instead. — Jaydiem (talk) 20:05, 24 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have added a compromise solution to the article, which I think accurately describes the situation. Martin Hogbin (talk) 18:37, 26 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your suggestion, Martin. It seemed rather unwieldy to put it in the subsection header, so I moved it to the subsection text for better readability. This resolution is fine with me if it's fine with Piriczki. — Jaydiem (talk) 01:38, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Looks okay to me. Piriczki (talk) 12:47, 27 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Background of "Free Fallin'"

Under the "musical styles and themes" heading it states that the song free falling addresses tom pettys nostalgia while rising to fame, but actually i just saw him play in edmonton and he said that the song was written after he was somewhere he shouldn't have been, doing something he shouldn't of been doing. so i dont see how that addresses any nostalgia while rising to fame, so i suggest we change that part to reflect better what tom petty had said. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spartamo (talk • contribs) 01:16, 20 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Full Moon Fever rejection

I feel someone should add to this Wiki article on Full Moon Fever to explain how the album was rejected by Petty’s label because the label felt it didn’t have potential for a hit single. George Harrison helped Warner Brothers label see that this was silly, so Warner Brothers agreed to sign Petty after his current label’s contract expired. It’s an important part of the history of that album. 2601:2C6:4E00:9F60:6C6A:43DF:574F:2659 (talk) 20:33, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]