Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Krok
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The result of the debate was DELETE. Golbez 03:29, May 18, 2005 (UTC)
Apparent hoax; English-language search on Yahoo! reveals zero hits for Conolocus, and only three hits (none of them relevant) for Hittite+Krok. Delete unless someone can confirm content from a printed source. JamesMLane 13:16, 12 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
see: "The major historical texts of early Hittite history" by Trevor Bryce
I'm going to have to agree with James on the delete, although I won't deny that there seems to be information that bears in light for the OP. For example, there's [1], which lists an asteroid named after Krok, (Asteroid 3102Krok) a scheme usually used for minor deities. However, I just spent some time on Google and came up with nothing aside from that. Additionally, the Encyclopedia Mythica turns up nothing (no surprise there, since that's not the best kept database, IMHO). This is going to need a lot more evidence to be a keeper. --Mitsukai 13:36, 12 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete this has the whiff of a hoax, for reasons several of which will be spotted by some people. I will add one, that the Hittite archaeological remains are in modern Turkey, a slab found in Hebron seems fishy, a vague echo of the Hebrew Bible mentioning the patriarchs buying some land in Hebron from the Hittites, but I'm not aware of any archaeological evidence that the Hittites were in Hebron. PatGallacher 14:33, 2005 May 12 (UTC)
Delete. A topic as specific as this needs citation, this article has none. EvilPhoenix
- Delete, unverifiable. Megan1967 05:07, 13 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. I did a quick scan of the indices to 3 books I own about the Hittites (Harry A. Hoffner, Hittite Myths; Gary Beckman, Hittite Diplomatic Texts; & Trevor Bryce, The Kingdom of the Hittites), & not one refers to such a deity. (At this point, it's not worth it to me to go downstairs & also check my copy of ANET.) BTW, I took a class on the Hittite language in college, & based on my memory of that class alone, I'd attest that "Krok" is not close to being a Hittite name, divine or otherwise. -- llywrch 00:40, 13 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, hoax. Llywrch is right, it's not even a possible Hittite word. --Angr/comhrá 05:47, 13 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
- I've been here more than a year and I can still be amazed at this place. I listed this article for deletion because it seemed a little off and I couldn't verify it. That simple listing prompted this incredible amount of research and comment by people who've studied the Hittites, who have relevant texts ready to hand, and find suspicious points based on the nature of the word, the stated location of the find, etc. I had no clue as to any of this. It's too bad that some jerk's casual hoax article wasted so much of the time of sincere editors, but there's a silver lining: We see another example of Wikipower. JamesMLane 08:58, 13 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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