Talk:National Medal of Technology and Innovation

Update request

This needs to be updated, in March of 2005 new awards were given to the creators of cat5, the catalytic converter, and Watts Humphrey (there were others, these are the ones that come to mind). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.92.100.161 (talk • contribs) 2005-04-11T23:49:09

Bill Gates notablity

Is he really notable in this context? eeemess 17:35, 26 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Yes ,without him we would not have all those lovely viruses.... 77.105.22.205 (talk) 22:42, 1 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Year of award discrepancy

The year listed at the NMT website does not correspond to the year listed in the article. Ralph Baer, for example is listed at NMT as 2004, but 2005 in this article. Hmmm, I see later in the article that the 2004 award was not announced until November, 2005. Perhaps the President (and his entire staff) were just too busy with other things. --Blainster 23:14, 13 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

reply: indeed the year of the award is for the year preceding the announcement. Therefore, in September 2009, it was announced that IBM was a recipient of the 2008 National Medal of Technology and Innovation. This might be less confusing if it took place earlier in the year. Additionally, the NMTI website is not updated in sync with the announcement of the awards. lxs (talk) 14:08, 21 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why Abridged List of Recipients?

What is the selection criteria used to select those on the "most notable" list? Aren't all of the recipients notable by definition? This "most notable" sub-category of National Medal of Technology violates the NPOV.

Additionaly, the following sentence should be deleted:

Among the first recipients were technology giants like Steve Jobs and Stephen Wozniak, founders of Apple Computer, and AT&T Bell Laboratories, a veritable powerhouse in technological innovation.

Saying, "Among the first recipients were technology giants like Steve Jobs" is confusing. Does that mean that Mr. Jobs, that giant of technology, or someone else of similar technological stature was awarded the National Medal of Technology? Sometimes, less is more. As for "veritable powerhouse" ... less is more. Compare:

The first National Medals of Technology were issued in 1985 by then-U.S. President Ronald Reagan to 14 individuals and one company. Among the first recipients were technology giants like Steve Jobs and Stephen Wozniak, founders of Apple Computer, and AT&T Bell Laboratories, a veritable powerhouse in technological innovation. The medal has since been awarded annually with the most recent winners, the recipients in 2004, having been announced on November 14, 2005.

with:

The first National Medals of Technology were issued in 1985 by then-U.S. President Ronald Reagan to 14 individuals and one company. The medal has since been awarded annually with the most recent winners, the recipients in 2004, having been announced on November 14, 2005.

--TMH 07:51, 30 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I disagree that all the laureates are notable by definition. Yes, this is a major prize, but some of the laureates are merely businessmen with no notable technological contributions, and others are members of teams and have by themselves not received considerable press coverage or other printed attention which would give them verifiable sources on which to base articles. That said, I think three individuals of high notability not yet found on the abridged list should be added to it: technology pioneer Gordon Bell, futurist Raymond Kurzweil, and helicopter inventor and aviation company founder and namesake Charles Kaman. It should also be noted that there exists an unabridged list of those laureates who have Wikipedia articles in the form of a category. Robert K S (talk) 19:22, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that the phrase "most notable" brushes into WP:NPOV because it puts editors in the position of making opinion judgments. I also agree that simply being honored with this medal doesn't neccesarily confer automatic notability. Fortunately the answer is simple and we don't have to re-invent the wheel. Simply change "most notable" to just "notable" with that meaning that the person already has an article in Wikipedia. In other words, no red links. This is how it's done for most all embedded lists in the encyclopedia. I'm going to be bold and make the change now. —Elipongo (Talk contribs) 05:39, 22 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Winners of both the Technology Medal and the Science Medal

I informally compiled a list while reading:

Are there any others? Robert K S (talk) 20:48, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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