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What is the concluding idea in the poem?

Do your own homework.

Huh?

According to Antony Harrison of North Carolina State University, Jerome McGann reads the poem as a criticism of Victorian marriage markets and conveys "the need for an alternative social order".

Err...does McGann say it, or doesn't he? Why in the world are we citing one contemporary scholar about what another contemporary scholar (who I actually took a class from, as it happens) said? Plus, the whole bit is uncited, so it's not like it would be any more irresponsible to just say McGann says it... john k 19:37, 14 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

This references an insane poem which for some reason Gary King feels inclined to defend, but anyone interested in this episode should have a look at http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/16950/pg16950.html which is the project Gutenberg full text of "The Goblin Markets". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.177.136.22 (talk) 22:54, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup issues

This entry says "Goblin Market... is an important poem," which seems to me to be both POV and bad writing. It also contains statements that seem a little too analytical (i.e. things that might end up as plagiarism or may themselves be plagiarism), e.g. the second paragraph of the "Criticism" section. Too, the last sentence of that paragraph indicates that "It is worth noting that although the historical record is lacking, Rossetti apparently began working at Highgate Penitentiary for fallen women shortly after composing "Goblin Market" in the spring of 1859," but fails to say why this might be important (if we're going to offer criticism, we should at least be complete about it.)

I also suggest that the part of the "Criticism" section beginning with "From a technical standpoint" be split off, as it is clearly a formal analysis and not part of any critical reception. I suggest putting this formal analysis before the "Criticism" section as it seems good to me to offer a "technical standpoint" before discussing any of the wider implications of the work.

Finally, as mentioned above, the "double citation" issue needs clearing up, and that quote needs to be cited.

I don't intend to fix any of these myself, as I don't have time or inclination. Those of you who care more should take up the burden.

Remaining anonymous, 130.184.14.125 04:33, 20 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

you lazy bones! :)

Removed as I could not find a source. Please add back if someone finds a source:Agatha Christie's Poirot "Cat Among The Pigeons" (season 11, episode 2) : A schoolteacher at a prestigious all-girls school reads lines from Goblin Market to her class. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ClaireBowling (talk • contribs) 22:00, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have a question....

Were all these women of the nineteenth century feminist? --VKokielov (talk) 21:07, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Feminists didn't exist under the term in the nineteenth century, so no. Wrad (talk) 01:27, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There were certainly women in the C19 who are now considered proto-feminists, who might be said to have held feminist ideas before feminism was formally identified as a doctrine ... but all of the women of the C19? Not so much... 82.1.7.156 (talk) 16:23, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

" a character named Jeanie who is referenced but not physically present for any of the events in the text." may i point out that none of the characters are physically present for any of the events in the text as they are fictional :/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.113.9 (talk) 20:37, 25 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

They are physically present within the fictional narrative of the poem. I think the meaning of the remark is clear in context. Wight1984 (talk) 12:56, 25 April 2011 (GMT) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.78.186.81 (talk)

What is the role of the woman's hair in this poem? (symbollism?) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.158.64.94 (talk) 21:41, 27 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Possibly Sympathetic magic - a lock of hair, or nail clippings or similar things often appear to be used in creating a connection to a victim in magical traditions. 82.1.7.156 (talk) 16:23, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright status?

The references section seems to claim that the work is in copyright. But how can anything published in 1862 still be in copyright? Was there a special exception to copyright expiration for this work similar to Peter Pan?K8 fan (talk) 05:04, 8 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Broken Link

The link in the reference section no longer works.

What is the anti-semitism accusation about?

"The critic Cynthia Scheinberg believes the Goblins to be "Hebraic," anti-semitic and anti-Judaic characters that the tested Christian sisters Laura and Lizzie must face in order to transition into wholesome and complete young women.[4]" What is Ms. Scheinberg's evidence? Anti-Semitism is a serious accusation and should not be made without backup evidence. If there is no none, this section should be removed.

76.122.86.169 (talk) 23:49, 29 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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